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3/9/2009
Wisconsin conservatives - much to say

It was a rip-roaring day for conservative ideas Saturday. 1,200 folks at Green Bay’s ‘tea party,’ who walked to Rep. Kagen’s office to register their objections to growing federal programs and bailouts. (Berry Laker's pictures here.) And 800 activists at the Defending the American Dream Summit in Milwaukee.

I was in Milwaukee at the Summit. Perhaps a few quotes can tell much of the day’s story.

Congressman Paul Ryan urged us all to hit the history books hard. A favorite President of Ryan’s? Calvin Coolidge, whom Ryan quoted, “I regard a good budget as one of the noblest monuments to virtue.”

And from Ryan:

The promise of keeping your earnings from work is central to freedom.
The spirit of risk-taking is snuffed out by an all-providing government.
Too many are more concerned about security than for their liberty.
Progressives see it differently than we do, where self-reliance is a vice and government dependency, a virtue.

From David King, President, Milwaukee God Squad:

WE allowed them to take God out of everything….. If He’s not who He says He is, why are they trying to take God out of everything?

From Joe the Plumber:

Be angry. You don’t need to be crass, but must be persistent…. I asked one question – and I have the American dream. That dream is to be heard.

From Steve Moore, writer for the Wall Street Journal:

Thank God for the Wall Street Journal editorial page!
No more bailouts!
The U.S. has printed more money in the last six months than in the last 70 years. [Eeek. Not good.]
The most evil tax is cap and trade.

(State Rep. Jim Ott, cool guy, former TV meteorologist and global warming expert and ‘anti-crusader, called ‘cap and trade,’ “scam and tax.”)

Moore shared his modern update of the Ronald Reagan aphorism:

A recession is when your neighbor is out of work.
A depression is when you’re out of work.
A recovery is when Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid are out of office.

Orv Semer of Citizens for Responsible Government, or CRG, the recall experts, got a roaring response when he announced the news of an organized recall of Governor Doyle. He says to watch for more news mid-April. Contact Orv if you’re interested in helping the cause.

Dick Patten of the American Family Business Institute, in his fight to eliminate estate taxes, quoted Proverbs 13:22:

A good man leaves an inheritance for his children’s children.

Gosh. Whom haven’t I mentioned. Scott Walker, Milwaukee Co. Sheriff David Clarke. Radio “rock star” Vicky McKenna, Congressman Jim Sensenbrenner, State Rep. Leah Vukmir, AFP national president Tim Phillips, Wisconsin president Mark Block, Judge Randy Koschnick, State Superintendent candidate Rose Fernandez and more.

Lastly Herman Cain, nationally known radio talk show host, urged us to keep reading the Declaration of Independence beyond the familiar few sentences.

That to secure these Rights [Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness], Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the Consent of the governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these Ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government…

Cain calls the “political class of Washington D.C.” WWDs – Weapons of Wealth Destruction.

We the people, he says, are still in charge – and we’re having a 3-way crisis – an economic crisis, a leadership crisis and a “clueless crisis. Stupid people are running this country.”

Cain says he doesn’t like to just describe the problem, but rather to “underscore what we can do."

Organize – get equipped.
Mobilize (e.g., Tea Parties across the country)
Vocalize

Great stuff. Good people. I loved it.

Jo Egelhoff, FoxPolitics.net

COMMENTS

Yea, then you have the Cato Institute come by and remove all the luster as they write that Blocking Obama’s Health Plan Is Key to the GOP’s Survival. They propose obstructionism no matter what the cost to society. They prefer winning elections to economic stability, at whatever the cost.

Jack Lohman (Mon Mar 09 08:05:01 2009)

Jo, Jo, Jo. A great love of platitudes but pitifully little talk of a plan. I am looking forward to the day when the republicans realize that "NO" isn't a plan. Where's the beef?

billie (Mon Mar 09 08:10:48 2009)

Don't hold your breath Billie. Their "plan" is to make sure the Dem's "plan" doesn't get passed. The Cato's strategy has some very deep implications. Obstruct, obstruct, obstruct until the public gets tired of zero progress. They certainly don't want Obama's plan to succeed.

Jack Lohman (Mon Mar 09 10:55:33 2009)

I hope some of those powerful business leaders can help Joe: by explaining the differences between gross and net and taxable income, and a thumbnail sketch of the price they'd accept to sell their licensed small business to one of their unlicensed employees. Maybe this topic can be the subject of Joe's second book.

John Foust (Mon Mar 09 17:24:53 2009)

Well they had a good day for it.

We had a good day for the peace rally in downtown Appleton on Saturday about the same time. Not as many of course. The blinders as to the reasons that the US is being taken to the Poor House have not come off in the preceding three months. The Wrecking Crew of the Bush years has done a good job of that. Never think that George W. Bush and company were a failure. Everything that the administration wanted to wreck it did.

Portraying the rich as the underdogs is a tried and true ploy of the Republicans. They have actually used "Rules For Radicals" by Saul Alinsky as a play book for strategic operations. Saul Alinsky was the pupil of John L. Sullivan the labor organizer.

As long as the activism doesn't turn ugly once people get 'organized and equipped' that's the American way. But from what has been heard on right wing hate radio lately it is hard to imagine that those protests will stay civil.

Do you really have the patience to do protest for years as we have done locally to stop the war in Iraq?

Do you think that the financial war against citizens using blackmail and scare tactics is any different? Do you know which side you are on? Are you ready for the long haul?

Between November and the inauguration (that's during the last days of the Bush administration y'know) what was heard from places like the Treasury and Federal Reserve was that the sky was falling and that this or that was too big to fail. That's scare tactics. That's blackmail.

Oh and by the way, the Boston Tea Party was not a protest against the government it was an underground masked rebellion against corporate-controlled distribution of tea and price fixing.

Lon Ponschock (Mon Mar 09 12:14:19 2009)

Yeah, touche John.
You guys whining about policy ideas. Geesh. GOP elected officials have hundreds of policies and programs at the ready and well-defined. If you want to question their political strategies, go ahead. But pleeeeze, don't question the existence of their ideas just because you disagree with them.

Jo (Mon Mar 09 18:00:26 2009)

I don't question whether they have a plan ready, I criticize who those plans have been aimed at in the past: their wealthy contributors. And given where they've taken us over the last 8 years, I don't think I want to go there again.

Jack Lohman (Mon Mar 09 18:50:29 2009)

IF Paul Ryan had opposed the Military Commissions Act, PATRIOT Acts, and opposed the wars we are engaged in, and if he had NOT voted for the bankster bailout last fall, I would be a great fan. Sensenbrenner? His support for the Patriot Act and other bills destroying our freedom disqualify him from any serious consideration by those who love freedom and the constitution.

But I think I could like most of the other attendees.

And Jack: "They propose obstructionism no matter what the cost to society. They prefer winning elections to economic stability, at whatever the cost." What a curious statement from someone who would destroy what is left of our economy and our liberty by making the fedgov not only our nanny, but our doctor and nurse. So how do you think dissidents will fare when medical services are POLITICALLY provided?

Virtually everything that Obama promotes is a frontal attack on the future prosperity of my children and our rights. You damn betcha I am going to obstruct the destruction of what is good and right about this country.

And again, it is the FED that is at the root of our economic destruction. They create money out of thin air, collecting interest on the counterfeited money, putting it first in the hands of the money manipulators on Wall St. who create the money to drive up prices, to pay commissions, and to pay executives whose real productive, rather than speculative effort is at best minimal. Watch this and get back to me:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-466210540567002553

"Money banking and the Federal Reserve"
by the Mises Institute.

Ken Van Doren (Mon Mar 09 21:00:57 2009)

Ken, you really should be less ideologic and more pragmatic. Medicare-for-all is best corporate bailout… But don't you worry, our politicians like the sound of insurance industry money too much, and are not inclined to do the right thing.

Jack Lohman (Tue Mar 10 03:47:35 2009)

Jack says:
Ken, you really should be less ideologic and more pragmatic. Medicare-for-all is best corporate bailout… But don't you worry, our politicians like the sound of insurance industry money too much, and are not inclined to do the right thing."

I submit that it is PRAGMATISM that got us into this mess. The "dime less" variety of Republicans, (you know, the ones who want exactly what Dems want, only a bit less) are every bit as culpable in this mess as the thorough going socialists/interventionists. AND, a system that strongly upholds individual rights, including property, that does not tip the scales for or against "special interests," is provably more productive, more stable over the long haul than the mess we have now. Hence, more "pragmatic." Once we yield to the notion that the force of government can be used to pick each others' pockets, there is no logical stopping point. If my neighbor has a right to my first nickel, what legal or moral principle protects my last?

And that, my friend, is why all socialist/interventionist systems must fail. There is no limit on what they can/will do once the do-gooders (who do far more bad than good) gain control. Mises worked this out back in the 1920's, and all that I have read and seen supports this conclusion.

Ken Van Doren (Tue Mar 10 09:18:03 2009)

I disagrre. Both R's abd D's created this mess, because they were paid to by the specfial interests that wanted deregulation and got it. Degregulation works only when 100% of the population is honest, and we know that's not true. But we've had deregulation for the last 25 years, and I'm not happy with the results. If it takes some socialism to fix the system, I'm for it. That is what I call pragmatism.

Jack Lohman (Tue Mar 10 09:34:00 2009)

Jack, you and Ken DO agree, that both Rs and Ds caused this mess. And I agree with you too. Too many people believe true conservatives think Bush was conservative--he was NOT!!!

But the problem goes back a long way, to FDR, who started the ball rolling. Hey, it goes even further back to Coolidge and the beginning of the Federal Reserve. I urge EVERYONE to watch the video "America: Freedom to Fascism" (made, I believe, by a Democrat) which helps to explain this, and then go study Austrian economics. (The video used to be available for free, online.)

emily matthews (Tue Mar 10 17:05:53 2009)

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