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    8/12/2009
    Time to hold our local media accountable

    The Post-Crescent recently characterized participants in town hall meetings hosted by Representative Steve Kagen last week as disrespectful and disruptive.
    In the health care debate, the shouters say they're shouting because they're scared. They're angry. And they want to make sure Democratic congressmen know how scared and angry they are.

    They have points to make — points that should be heard. Congress needs to hear those objections and concerns from constituents about such a huge issue.

    But there's an effective way to do it — with passion, but with respect and control. It's the best way to make an argument heard.

    By shouting, interrupting and disrupting, they lose their impact. All that's heard is the volume, not the reason. And by being rude and disrespectful, they marginalize themselves. They're viewed as the unhinged people who communicate through shouting.

    … Kagen and his congressional colleagues must listen to what their constituents are saying. It's not enough just to put on a few meetings and say you heard people.

    But Kagen's constituency — those who voted for and against him — has a responsibility, too. Yes, we can discuss and debate with passion and anger. But, at some point, the volume, rudeness and disrespect for each other becomes overwhelming.

    If the purpose of the shouting last week was to disrupt meetings and get nothing accomplished, then it was a success. But, friends, our nation needs a lot more than that.

    And that goes without saying a thing. [Read the whole thing here.]
    Patricia McNaughton, Fremont, prepared and respectful, attended and participated in the Appleton “Kagen Listening Session.” She has thoughtful questions of the Post-Crescent editorial staff.

    Can you identify?
    While the P-C did a great job of admonishing town-hall participants to pipe down, I found it interesting, the paper did not assign any responsibility for constituent frustration and anger to Rep. Kagen and other elected officials for their inept handling of constituent concerns about so-called health-care reform. Not exactly awe inspiring.

    The P-C failed to point out that these people who purport to know how health care should be run failed to anticipate even the space requirements for town halls, forcing hundreds of constituents to be locked out.

    The P-C failed to point out that when signing in, we were told to write down our questions on cards...which led to the distinct impression follow-up questions would not be allowed even if Rep. Kagen’s answer didn't satisfy the asker.

    The P-C failed to point out Dr. Kagen failed to anticipate the extent of constituent concern and level of frustration and anger.

    The P-C failed to point out that many constituents already have contacted Dr. Kagen and other elected officials numerous times on key issues and been met with pabulum-like form letters.

    The P-C failed to mention no one who disagreed with this administration’s plans for reform was allowed to attend President Obama’s town hall meeting in Green Bay or to congregate anywhere close to the facility in which it was held.

    The P-C failed to mention the months of fervent maligning of Tea Party participants by elected officials and the media.

    When the P-C admonishes Dr. Kagen for calling town-hallers a “mob” or “shills for insurance companies,” then I’ll believe the P-C is doing its job.

    When the P-C questions the good doctor on his Appleton town hall comment, ”your neighbors don’t want you to have health care”, then I’ll believe the P-C is doing its job.

    When the P-C questions Rep. Kagen’s stating (in an August 5th WPR interview) “there are no downsides” to health-care reform, only then, will I believe the P-C is doing its job!
    Indeed. It continues to be time to hold our elected officials accountable. And, it continues to be time to participate in our local media – and indeed – to hold our local media accountable to ask the tough questions and persist as long as it takes to get meaningful answers.

    Jo Egelhoff, FoxPolitics.net




    COMMENTS

    Your friend did a good job Jo.

    AND it should be pointed out that Obamites and the media are criticizing the opposition to this proposal as organized by special interest groups, they by and large fail to point out the even greater organized effort on the part of Obama's campaign committee, or whatever it calls itself these days. I was at a Democrat meeting where they handed out "feel good" petititions, and asked them to pass and get signatures. When I pointed out some of the problems with the specific bill, I was told that now was not the time to get into specifics, by the Obama organizer. Obviously, they want fervent support, but they do not want folks to look too closely.

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    Ken Van Doren (Wed Aug 12 08:19:52 2009)

    Heaven forbid that the editors at P-C let their own bias show through in the article. They would have us think only Democrats are suffering the rudeness and disrespect of those town hall "mobs". Is Congressman Petri not a republican? As I recall, he, too, received an earful from a "mob" at his Darboy meeting. Could the demeanor of the audiences at these town hall meetings be an indicator that the silent majority has finally found their collective voices and, knowing how the politicians control and manipulate the information they give and that is offered to them, are now demanding to be heard. It is my hope that the "mobs" will have a longer memory than it seems voters usually have and carry their discord with them through the next election cycle in 2010. One other matter: are the PC editors at the P-C suggesting that civil discord should not be allowed at these gentlemanly meetings where the government means to tell us what they are going to do for us? Seems to me the bedrock of America is civil discord. My message to our elected officials: Sir, I not only desire to be heard, but I DEMAND to be heard.
    WAKE UP AMERICA!

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    Charlie (Wed Aug 12 09:28:54 2009)

    It's too easy to disagree with tactics such as shouters use and conclude that whatever they're shouting about is invalid. If The P-C merely sided with Rep. Kagen because he wasn't one of the shouters, then it failed to do its job. By all means, the media need to be consistent, which includes reporting on the pluses and minuses of congresspeople. The shouters should not have their "day in court" at the expense of people who care about issues, and they need to be repudiated for that. But the same people -- or their parents, or grandparents -- who scorned the folks who wouldn't let Spiro Agnew be heard in the late 1960s because he was on the "wrong" political side should not now be preaching about the ills of civil disorder. There is civil disorder, and there is civil disorder. Would we ever have heard of George Washington if there had been none, civil or otherwise? d.m.
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    d.m. (Wed Aug 12 13:14:24 2009)

    Newspapers have always believed they were the "Keeper of the Flame"
    When it come to Liberty and Freedom.
    Perhaps we were swayed into believing this because of the greatest publisher of them all, Ben Franklin.
    We know must know that to assume such reverence is folly.

    We are seeing a shift, from newspapers to the Internet.
    Interestingly, the newspapers and their editors know not why?

    Perhaps their allegiances to Party Lines OR Political Correctness (my bet) and not for "Truth, Justice, and the American Way" is their own undoing.

    Newspapers have always been anti-government, and thus, adored by all, for man by nature resents control. We call that L-I-B-E-R-T-Y
    Since the fifties, the Journalism Schools started turning out brainwashed automatons that feel their greatest contributions is finding fault with fellow man and not with the 800-pound Tiger at the door. They have forgotten Franklins warnings
    The tiger continues to purr gently and these reporters and editors are lulled to sleep by the syncopated rhythm
    One day the Tiger will eat them and they will wonder why no one came to their aid. For the attack is swift and violent, and their only savior is alertness which they lost in college.

    Like parents of an errant child, we worry about the safe return of our valued news media, but like the Prodigal son, they have to discover their error themselves, for the Tiger lies in wait.

    My nickel says they will be eaten and are unfit to do our bidding.

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    Rich Carlstedt (Wed Aug 12 14:32:03 2009)




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