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    5/4/2010
    Burri: REPAIR. Then BELIEVE – acronyms working for the Dems

    One more acronym, and I think this thing’ll work... What thing? Keep reading, and you'll find out. First: Democrats are scrambling in the wake of Arizona’s “new” illegal immigration law.

    Note: I put quotes around the word “new” because Arizona didn’t actually create anything new. They just enacted stricter enforcement standards for laws already in place.

    The word "scrambled," though: that I left quote-less, although it's unlikely any literal scrambling went on. They were metaphorically scrambling, but scrambling nonetheless.

    To do what? To point in mock horror at the racist demands of Arizonans, who so blatantly expect their federal government to uphold the law and defend their lives and property?

    Well, yes, but more than that: they scrambled to make themselves look tough on illegal immigration.

    They figured out that, y'know, Americans like to see the laws enforced. It doesn't do, politically, to side with throngs of angry people screaming "Aztlan" and waving Mexican flags.

    So: on Thursday, Senate Democrats released a 26-page plan – not a bill, just a plan – called "Real Enforcement with Practical Answers for Immigration Reform," or REPAIR. Included in REPAIR: the "Biometric Enrollment, Locally-stored Information, and Electronic Verification of Employment" – or BELIEVE – System.

    BELIEVE is…well, not exactly a national I.D. card, in the same way that the Social Security numbers aren't national I.D. numbers. No, BELIEVE is more of a national work permit. You want to work, you’ve gotta have one. You don’t have one, you can’t get a job.

    That’s the theory, anyway. In practice, should this ever become law, I’ll be investing more heavily in the underground economy. Or I would, if you could invest in the underground economy. Because more people will be working under the table, instead of over it.

    REPAIR is pretty simple, all in all. First secure the borders, then grant amnesty. Then, of course, hope and pray that the government keeps securing the borders. Amnesty now for the promise of eternally zealous enforcement, is what it really is.

    The interesting thing about this Senate Democrat plan…

    Wait, let's not call it the Senate Democrat plan. Let's call it the REPAIR plan. The boys at the Office of Acronyms worked pretty hard on it last week, and it’d be a shame to let that go to waste.

    The interesting thing about REPAIR is: it’s not really so much different from Arizona's new law.

    Worried about the phrase “papers, please?” The REPAIR plan requires papers, too, and more. Instead of a state trooper asking for the papers, it’ll be Julie, the new intern over at Human Resources. Except, instead of asking “papers, please,” Julie will just say: “BELIEVE?”

    And instead of only suspected illegals hearing the phrase "papers, please," it'll be all of us. Everyone. Legal or illegal; honest or criminal; from the lowest dregs of society's scumbarrels to old Aunt Edith, who just wants to greet shoppers at Wal-Mart two days a week.

    That's not the only way REPAIR goes further than the Arizona law does. It also calls for far more zealous federal immigration enforcement; far greater investment in both manpower and equipment; even pseudo-militarization of the border.

    That's important, because no matter how gung-ho Arizona gets, they’re still at the mercy of the feds. Arizona can’t force federal agents to come get the illegals they're holding over at the county jail. Arizona can’t deport anybody on their own. Only the feds can do that.

    Meaning: all this anger and hate pro-illegal protesters have been pouring out onto Arizona…they should be even more angry at Senate Democrats, who are proposing far more.

    Lance Burri blogs regularly via his site, The TrogloPundit




    COMMENTS

    Anger and hate by "pro illegal" protesters? Wow, you're on another planet about who the hate out there is directed against. A few facts about the employment identity card concept. Most illegals come here to work. Period. The reason why they can get work is because Employers look the other way as far as identification goes and the Feds don't fund the upgrades necessary to the Social Security Administration to implement accurate employment check databases. Employers, Illegals and Politicians engage in this elaborate dance. The only honest ones are the Illegals. They want to work and know if they get caught, big trouble. The Employers talk about border security etc. but have no interest in never hiring illegals. The Politicians (lubricated by money) won't do anything strong to prevent Employers from hiring illegals in the first place. So the Employer ID card. Yes, if you're applying for a job you have a certified , forgery proof card that says you are legal to work in the US. Why would Employers object to that? And how on earth does this card come even close to the National ID card that the Arizona law implies ("oops, no proof of citizenship? come with me" ). The two are wildly different and the Employer ID card is much more in line with our civil liberties than the Arizona law and , it will be effective. I think everyone should support this concept.
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    dave allen (Tue May 04 07:17:51 2010)

    Right. So. When the feds want to make everyone subject to showing papers to prove that they're legal, that's okay. When a state does it, it's racist and wrong. got it.
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    Lance (Tue May 04 09:54:28 2010)

    Lance,
    The federal id system her is a right to work card that an employer asks you for when you are asking for a job. It's the same thing as having to produce a birth certificate when you're getting a driver's license. You're asking someone to do something for you and they are asking you to do something for them in return. The Arizona Id situation is the closest this country will have ever come to am mandatory ID requirement. Upon "reasonable suspicion" an officer can force you prove who you are and that you are a citizen. The two are not identical in the least. If you think they are the same please show me your logic 'cause it aint so. BTW if you were pulled over in AZ could you prove you're a citizen? I couldn't unless I carried my passport.

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    dave allen (Tue May 04 18:07:23 2010)

    Actually, the problems AZ was having was more with the drug-gang type of illegals. I resent that anybody would try to paint this as racist. Why should my husband, a LEGAL immigrant, have to jump through all sorts of hoops to get here, including a chest xray to prove he doesn't have TB, and these people get away with breaking the law?

    Hubby speaks with a funny accent, and doesn't look like a Wisconsinite, but he wouldn't have any problem with being asked to show ID--because HE HAS NOTHING TO HIDE. The only ones who get mad in a situation like this, are the ones who DO have something to hide.

    This kind of thing is a slap in the face to people like my husband.

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    emily matthews (Wed May 05 08:51:19 2010)

    Emily,
    You're missing the point about AZ. Although AZ has more trouble than the rest of us (I used to live there BTW)the reason why illegals initially go there and everywhere is largely because of work. The law proposed by Dems would cut off that work incentive nationally, stem the inflow. get it:? stop the inflow. The blog here started with criticizing the DEM proposal. Why wouldn't you want to stem the inflow? With regard to getting rid of the bad guys the AZ law would be the first to require proof of citizenship to be on you at all times or they hold you until you can prove citizenship. You mention your Hubby would have no problem producing identification. There are two problems with this. Firstly is the civil liberties problem. I sincerely doubt you'd be in favor of a national law that required everyone to have a national ID card and that if you didn't have the card (and for that reason alone) you'd be kept in jail until you provided the national id card. Isn't this what was done by the Soviets? Secondly and more practical to AZ if you and your hubby traveled there and the police did pull him over what ID would he use? Drivers license ? Sorry, that's not proof of legal status. How about a social security card:? Nope, that won't do either. Hmmmm how about a passport? Yes that would do. But how many people carry those around all day. Ok so your hubby doesn't have a problem showing ID. Big deal he'd still be required to cool his heels in jail while you're back here finding his passport.

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    dave allen (Wed May 05 12:17:17 2010)

    Dave, you are wrong. BTW, I used to live in PHX. If you are driving a car and run a stop sign, speed, etc., you have to show your DL, I don't care who you are and where you are! And I bet you don't get in your car without your DL. A WI DL is valid in AZ as long as you are visiting but if you are there for more than 30 days and working, you are REQUIRED to get an AZ DL or pay a fine. That lesson was learned the hard way. I have to agree with Emily, it is only the people that are here ILLEGALLY that are afraid of this law and the people that are misguided to think the law is somehow a "bad thing". Legal residents must show a birth certificate when obtaining a DL. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT? It is just beyond my comprehension that asking a person, who may be suspect of committing a crime, for some IDENTIFICATION. Be afraid, very afraid, you may be asked to show some identification to get a library card. Get serious. Support the law that was created to keep our Country safe.
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    Babs (Fri May 07 00:48:50 2010)

    Babs,
    What you and Emily are missing is that a driver's license is not proof of citizenship. Do your research first. So, like I said, hubby is pulled over and only has a driver's license, off to the pokey to cool off while proof of citizenship is somehow gathered.
    I will assume you are a natural born citizen of the US, I am. Let me ask you. Do you carry any of the documents below on you? No, you probably (like me) carry a driver's license. So, if for some reason like maybe you look different or have an accent you get pulled over under the "reasonable suspicion clause" you'd stay in jail too.

    Bab's if you don't see how a law like this is the first step to a police state then you need to look at history. Also, remember this blog started out about the DEMs proposal to cut down in illegal immigration by requiring employers to use available and enhanced proof of right to work systems. I assume you'd be in favor of that even though you and others here have focused on how you can gather up all those nasty illegal aliens.

    Per a website immihelp.com
    Proof of US citizenship:

    1. If you were born in the United States, a copy of your birth certificate, issued by the civil registrar, vital statistics office, or other civil authority.

    2. If you were naturalized, a copy of your naturalization certificate issued by USCIS or former INS.

    3. If you are were born outside the U.S. and you are a U.S. citizen through your parents, provide:
    1. Your original Certificate of Citizenship, or

    2. Your Form FS-240 (Report of Birth Abroad of a U.S. citizen), issued by the U.S. embassy or consulate.

    4. A copy of your unexpired U.S. passport; ALL pages or

    5. An original statement from a U.S. consular officer verifying that you are a U.S. citizen with a valid passport.

    A petitioner who is unable to obtain primary evidence of citizenship may submit other forms of evidence; however, such a petition should be regarded as "not clearly approvable" and forwarded to the USCIS office with jurisdiction. If you do not have any of the above documents, look at unavailability of documents.


    Proof of Permanent Resident (Green Card)

    A copy of the front and back of your permanent resident card. If you have not yet received your card, submit copies of your passport biographic page and the page showing admission as a permanent resident, or other evidence of permanent resident status issued by USCIS or the former INS.

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    dave allen (Fri May 07 07:21:20 2010)




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